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Post by borobob on Mar 3, 2024 19:00:26 GMT
Thanks for that very clear explanation, and it must be very difficult for the Club to control those, that don't want to be controlled, so well done to all for working on a very difficult situation.
Short of having a watchful pair of eyes at the front of every turnstile (not practicle) or camera face technology (ditto, and probably challegeable in law) to weed out the unwelcomed, I fail to see what else can be done to clear out those that don't want to be cleared!
Thankfully all was peaceful inside the ground, as it should be, but how you control the egress of supporters after a match is another big problem that comes with bigger attended matches.
The club is on a massive upturn and learning curve. Maybe this is another learning curve are to be discussed and considered as we progress.
As was said earlier, should we find ourselves facing Woking next season, or one of the other bigger clubs hovering around the bottom of the National (Southend for instance), or we get a huge F.A. cup tie, then plans need to be in place to prevent a small group of local ferrels spoiling the good things that are happening here!
Well done again to all that assisted on the day, particularly those that worked so hard to get the game played.
A good day marred by inane senslessness.
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Post by gav87 on Mar 3, 2024 20:11:04 GMT
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Post by paddyhayes on Mar 3, 2024 21:59:50 GMT
As far as we could tell from the unofficial footage that we had access to, only one punch was thrown by a Farnborough supporter, in contrast to the more aggressive reaction from the Slough supporters. That one punch was clearly in self defense. . The videos circulating online show our fan hitting an old man from behind, knocking him down. There was no self defence there. But on the rest of your post that sounds like the club tried their hardest with this group, which is really positive. Just a shame they've let everyone down. They were waiting on numbers after the game before heading towards the Yeovil fans. Re: Yeovil fans inside the ground winding up the PRE. There was one drunk guy, and Simon dealt with him really well |
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Post by armchairarry on Mar 4, 2024 8:51:24 GMT
Thank you. Pretty sure the Slough Slugger who was apparently banned for life was back as well. He is back but I didn’t see him involved in the car park to be fair. Involved or not involved, Banned for life should mean just that. Or what is the point? |
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Post by boromike on Mar 4, 2024 10:51:42 GMT
He is back but I didn’t see him involved in the car park to be fair. Involved or not involved, Banned for life should mean just that. Or what is the point? I think you may want to read Phil’s post. He was not banned for life. I’m all for second chances and if he has done everything the club and Police asked of him and has shown exemplary behaviour since he deserves a second chance. Or would you like to see his life ruined over what as it stands was a one off mistake? To be clear and for the avoidance of any doubt, the repeat offenders should be punished. |
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Post by antz27 on Mar 4, 2024 15:34:16 GMT
Involved or not involved, Banned for life should mean just that. Or what is the point? I think you may want to read Phil’s post. He was not banned for life. I’m all for second chances and if he has done everything the club and Police asked of him and has shown exemplary behaviour since he deserves a second chance. Or would you like to see his life ruined over what as it stands was a one off mistake? To be clear and for the avoidance of any doubt, the repeat offenders should be punished. I agree people do deserve second chances if it’s one offs that has got them the ban, I think wasn’t at that away game and don’t know what happened to cause the boiling over and fighting at the end but I was at the home Yeovil game and as Phil said some of those involved had been banned and allowed back and now they should be banned for life. I will call out the security and that I feel the club need to really have a word with them. I was sat in the PRE during the first half and watched the young Yeovil fan all slowly towards our faithful goading them and giving them the hand gestures and we didn’t retaliate…. But for a few minutes until Simon intervened I watched a security personal stand there watching him get closer and closer and not move an inch to tell him to go back to his seat. If they’re not there to prevent issues amongst supporters what are they there for? And it’s not the first time our security has been useless I was at the pompey game the other season where again mr pompeys mate was assaulted and again the security did nothing in fact I watched the security help the offender hide amongst his mates and get out the ground before the police showed up. Unfortunately in my opinion if the club are expecting big cowards and decent away support I feel they are going to have to start segregation again. |
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Post by archbishopchunder on Mar 4, 2024 17:05:36 GMT
As far as we could tell from the unofficial footage that we had access to, only one punch was thrown by a Farnborough supporter, in contrast to the more aggressive reaction from the Slough supporters. That one punch was clearly in self defense. . The videos circulating online show our fan hitting an old man from behind, knocking him down. There was no self defence there. But on the rest of your post that sounds like the club tried their hardest with this group, which is really positive. Just a shame they've let everyone down. They were waiting on numbers after the game before heading towards the Yeovil fans. Re: Yeovil fans inside the ground winding up the PRE. There was one drunk guy, and Simon dealt with him really well Paddy's right. The video showed the bouncing kangaroo kid decking at least one older Slough fan completely unprovoked and possibly another one (he did go down but from memory can't say definetely because this kid hit him). This doesn't sound like the kid acting in self defence. I'm sure Slough could dig up the video to give to Phil if need be or anyone could search and find it? I was one opposed to us not using segregation. It was lucky that things didn't kick off in the ground with the small minority of lairy Yeovil supporters. Stewards and Simon can't be everywhere. Certainly if we stay up and Woking come down it would be crazy not to segregate. Does anyone know if the bouncing kangaroo kid was involved on Saturday? . |
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Post by boromike on Mar 4, 2024 17:38:53 GMT
The videos circulating online show our fan hitting an old man from behind, knocking him down. There was no self defence there. But on the rest of your post that sounds like the club tried their hardest with this group, which is really positive. Just a shame they've let everyone down. They were waiting on numbers after the game before heading towards the Yeovil fans. Re: Yeovil fans inside the ground winding up the PRE. There was one drunk guy, and Simon dealt with him really well Paddy's right. The video showed the bouncing kangaroo kid decking at least one older Slough fan completely unprovoked and possibly another one (he did go down but from memory can't say definetely because this kid hit him). This doesn't sound like the kid acting in self defence. I'm sure Slough could dig up the video to give to Phil if need be or anyone could search and find it? I was one opposed to us not using segregation. It was lucky that things didn't kick off in the ground with the small minority of lairy Yeovil supporters. Stewards and Simon can't be everywhere. Certainly if we stay up and Woking come down it would be crazy not to segregate. Does anyone know if the bouncing kangaroo kid was involved on Saturday? . You shouldn’t really comment on this if you’re not 100% sure you’ve got a good handle on the facts. The person who threw the punch at Slough is late twenties and a fully grown adult. Kangaroo kid is a 16 year old. To answer your question, yes he was at the scene, I’ll say no more than that as it’s not my place to apportion any blame when I have no idea if he did anything beyond mouthing off. As Phil mentioned though it’s all on CCTV so those who are guilty will have no place to hide this time. |
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Post by eddieh on Mar 5, 2024 7:43:59 GMT
It looks to me like Farnborough FC need to get some outside professional help, as the
club, its security and stewards are incapable of dealing with these idiots.
If you cant sort out Fat Drummer Boy and Kangaroo Kid, what hope have you got
when you get some serious crowd disorder?
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Post by Phil M on Mar 5, 2024 8:57:33 GMT
It looks to me like Farnborough FC need to get some outside professional help, as the club, its security and stewards are incapable of dealing with these idiots. If you cant sort out Fat Drummer Boy and Kangaroo Kid, what hope have you got when you get some serious crowd disorder? "Fat" Drummer Boy!!!! Really? Think about what you are saying! As for the stewards, they are professional and we had Yeovil security and police backup on Saturday. The security staff work in ways the untrained eye doesn't understand. So when the chairman stepped in, unknown to him,he actually ruined a procedure that was already in operation. Not every steward can step in and say they are the chairman and suddenly get a fan to calm down! They stewards are assigned different jobs, so one that doesn't move maybe assigned an exit gate. Don't criticise what you don't know about. There was hardly any incidents in the ground which is where the security are paid to work and is testament to the good job they do. The carpark isn't our responsibility but we still try to calm anything down. |
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Post by betweenthesticks on Mar 5, 2024 10:56:06 GMT
I'm not suggesting we shouldn't discuss this or have folks suggest ways to improve matters, but it strikes me as very sad that after a cracking day we fill so many column inches debating the moronic behaviour of a few louts.
How about we stick the names and mug shots of banned "fans" on the big screen so hundreds of pairs of eyes can be on the look-out for them sneaking back into the ground? I guess invasion of privacy or some such woke rule prevents this, but if not, Name and Shame says I...
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Post by shaun on Mar 5, 2024 11:11:52 GMT
I think the title of this thread is very unfair.Its not the club's fault if a couple of dopes want to cause trouble.Did they even enter the ground?
All the social media i'v seen from Yeovil fans has been praising Boro and the staff.
Thanks to all the staff for an enjoyable day apart from the result of course.
Roll on tonight.
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Post by eddieh on Mar 5, 2024 11:30:10 GMT
It looks to me like Farnborough FC need to get some outside professional help, as the club, its security and stewards are incapable of dealing with these idiots. If you cant sort out Fat Drummer Boy and Kangaroo Kid, what hope have you got when you get some serious crowd disorder? "Fat" Drummer Boy!!!! Really? Think about what you are saying! As for the stewards, they are professional and we had Yeovil security and police backup on Saturday. The security staff work in ways the untrained eye doesn't understand. So when the chairman stepped in, unknown to him,he actually ruined a procedure that was already in operation. Not every steward can step in and say they are the chairman and suddenly get a fan to calm down! They stewards are assigned different jobs, so one that doesn't move maybe assigned an exit gate. Don't criticise what you don't know about. There was hardly any incidents in the ground which is where the security are paid to work and is testament to the good job they do. The carpark isn't our responsibility but we still try to calm anything down. If they are that professional, how come you still have this problem with these idiots months on? And yes, Fat Drummer Boy was the moron who barged into the two elderly gentlemen at Slough. You need to take a good look at yourselves and ban these idiots for life. And here is the evidence of Fat Boy at Slough: |
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Post by Phil M on Mar 5, 2024 13:30:55 GMT
Eddieh, I don't want to discuss this any further here. Please come and see me in the control room at a match, I'm very approachable. I will just say that the video I have, taken looking down on the whole area, shows that in a completely different context.
As people have rightly said, overall it was a successful day, we have had numerous emails praising the club and social media posts have been positive. A few mindless idiots outside the ground have tried to ruin it for all of us, but we are better than them and we'll get through this. Now lets get behind the lads tonight
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Post by archbishopchunder on Mar 5, 2024 13:36:29 GMT
Paddy's right. The video showed the bouncing kangaroo kid decking at least one older Slough fan completely unprovoked and possibly another one (he did go down but from memory can't say definetely because this kid hit him). This doesn't sound like the kid acting in self defence. I'm sure Slough could dig up the video to give to Phil if need be or anyone could search and find it? I was one opposed to us not using segregation. It was lucky that things didn't kick off in the ground with the small minority of lairy Yeovil supporters. Stewards and Simon can't be everywhere. Certainly if we stay up and Woking come down it would be crazy not to segregate. Does anyone know if the bouncing kangaroo kid was involved on Saturday? . You shouldn’t really comment on this if you’re not 100% sure you’ve got a good handle on the facts. The person who threw the punch at Slough is late twenties and a fully grown adult. Kangaroo kid is a 16 year old. To answer your question, yes he was at the scene, I’ll say no more than that as it’s not my place to apportion any blame when I have no idea if he did anything beyond mouthing off. As Phil mentioned though it’s all on CCTV so those who are guilty will have no place to hide this time. Fair enough if I've mixed people up I stand corrected. Whoever that was shown on the video, regardless of age, I believe should be banned, at least for a season, if not longer. |
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